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drkn · Nov 12, 2010, 08:52 PM // 20:52

link

So... how does it work? Is it a reliable source?
If so, it might be a good idea to popularise it.

Arduin · Nov 12, 2010, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Let's check it out then. Supposedly AM1 is recorded.

Yup, it's in real time. Nice site.

Very helpful for a fast pricecheck as well. Thanks for the link.

Waldir · Nov 12, 2010, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Looks legitimate, could be useful

Marco_vd · Nov 12, 2010, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Nice link, it could be useful

Milennin · Nov 12, 2010, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Yup, looks very useful. Seeing my own "WTB Superior Vigor" from like a few hours ago in it.xD

King Size · Nov 12, 2010, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Looks nice but do they have an agreement with Anet or something? How do they do this?

Kayn · Nov 12, 2010, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Wow, this is great. Will definitely be using this. Thanks!

ACWhammy · Nov 12, 2010, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Wow unreal! Thanks

Warvic · Nov 12, 2010, 11:07 PM // 23:07

This is amazing! tyvm

Gennadios · Nov 12, 2010, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Recognized one of the spams for an Unded Varesh from a few days ago, was being sold alongside a dredge and I bought it.

Seems pretty legitimate. LOVE this.

Arduin · Nov 12, 2010, 11:08 PM // 23:08

It's nice to see a certain buyer lowering his price with 5k every minute

FoxBat · Nov 12, 2010, 11:11 PM // 23:11

There is some kind of botting involved in this for sure, whether packet sniffing, custom client, or just screenshots being taken at regular intervals, analyzed and OCR'd. Well I guess that should be obvious to most of you, but I thought I'd make it clear for the rest.

Gennadios · Nov 12, 2010, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

There is some kind of botting involved in this for sure, whether packet sniffing, custom client, or just screenshots being taken at regular intervals, analyzed and OCR'd. Well I guess that should be obvious to most of you, but I thought I'd make it clear for the rest.

As long as individual players or people using this service aren't the ones putting their accounts on the line, they have my blessing.

drkn · Nov 12, 2010, 11:24 PM // 23:24

@FoxBat
While i have a few ideas how it might work, i'm not certain on any - so if someone possesses actual knowledge behind it and is even able to recreate it, please enlighten me

Even though it might breach EULA somehow, i hope ANet won't erase it from existence, as it's really handy thing and kudos to the guy who made it. As long as monitoring $ chat in Kamadan is all this script/bot/whatever does, it's harmless and useful.

On a side note, i think the thread might get cleaned up a bit, get OP a tad edited and be moved to PC subforum every moment - if it really works, as i haven't really processed any research on it yet (aka: haven't even bothered to check if it works

).

E: it's a great way to find someone to buy a rare item from, or sell some nice stuff to someone without shouting for hours. Just checked, totally randomly, 'cockatrice' in that database. Two newest shouts:

Quote:

(11/11/2010 11:28:06) Kobrakai Martyr : WTS Q9 20/10 COCKATRICE EARTH STAFF PM
(19/10/2010 14:23:30) X Lord Of The War X : WTB[Cockatrice r9 Earth Staff][PM]!!!

Despite them being a month after each other, it looks funny.

Chrisworld · Nov 12, 2010, 11:51 PM // 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

There is some kind of botting involved in this for sure, whether packet sniffing, custom client, or just screenshots being taken at regular intervals, analyzed and OCR'd. Well I guess that should be obvious to most of you, but I thought I'd make it clear for the rest.

Not to mention, if packet sniffing is involved, I wonder just how "private" Guild and Alliance are from prying eyes not to mention Whispers, lol.

drkn · Nov 13, 2010, 12:05 AM // 00:05

BTW, anyone feels like checking if this works and ain't a malware?

Cool Name · Nov 13, 2010, 12:24 AM // 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkn

BTW, anyone feels like checking if this works and ain't a malware?

Even if it does work I'm pretty sure it'd have to edit something in guild wars files... so imo no one should try it, unless they don't mind getting banned.

Smarty · Nov 13, 2010, 01:25 AM // 01:25

It's a very nice idea but I don't like that the character names are included - way to keep track of all those accounts with high value items on them! Removing all characters between $ and the first : would sit a lot better with me. (Yes I know that the info could be obtained quite easily from in game but it still seems wrong to record it and publicise it like this.)

drkn · Nov 13, 2010, 03:47 AM // 03:47

@Smarty:
Downside - if someone happens to get your e-mail and decides to bruteforce your account, he might - just might - get your character name out of that database; how he would connect the e-mail and the character, just from the database, assuming he got your e-mail somehow, is beyond me.
Upside - one can search the database for someone who spammed WTS/WTB XYZ recently and then pm him in game to buy/sell XYZ much faster and more conveniently.

Star_Jewel · Nov 13, 2010, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty

It's a very nice idea but I don't like that the character names are included - way to keep track of all those accounts with high value items on them! Removing all characters between $ and the first : would sit a lot better with me. (Yes I know that the info could be obtained quite easily from in game but it still seems wrong to record it and publicise it like this.)

Yeah, I'm on the fence about that. My initial reaction was the same as yours. If the purpose of the site is for pure price-check purposes, character names totally don't belong there. Though it would be nice to see some sort of replacement identification so one could track how certain traders modify the values of their items over time.

However, what makes this info dangerous in the hands of hackers/scammers is what makes it useful to the honest people wanting to make a fair trade -- you don't have to be in the same district with someone at the moment they are. You could whisper them later and see if the item is still available. On the other hand, that's what forum trade is for. But since no other character/account/player information is made available, I'm not sure what a hacker/scammer could really benefit from it that they couldn't benefit from just by watching the trade-spam in-game. Except for the ability to compile/manipulate the info.

Ehh, like I said, I'm on the fence.

Nov 12, 2010, 08:52 PM // 20:52	#1
drkn Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wroc??aw, Poland Guild: Midnight Mayhem Profession: Me/	gwEstimator link So... how does it work? Is it a reliable source? If so, it might be a good idea to popularise it.

Nov 12, 2010, 08:58 PM // 20:58	#2
Arduin Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ] Profession: R/	Let's check it out then. Supposedly AM1 is recorded. Yup, it's in real time. Nice site. Very helpful for a fast pricecheck as well. Thanks for the link. Last edited by Arduin; Nov 12, 2010 at 09:07 PM // 21:07..

Nov 12, 2010, 09:05 PM // 21:05	#3
Waldir Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: --------------- Profession: Mo/Me	Looks legitimate, could be useful

Nov 12, 2010, 10:31 PM // 22:31	#4
Marco_vd Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Belgium \| Antwerp Guild: Howling Voids [hv] Profession: W/	Nice link, it could be useful

Nov 12, 2010, 10:36 PM // 22:36	#5
Milennin Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Europe Profession: W/	Yup, looks very useful. Seeing my own "WTB Superior Vigor" from like a few hours ago in it.xD

Nov 12, 2010, 10:45 PM // 22:45	#6
King Size Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Romania Guild: [LSU] Profession: A/	Looks nice but do they have an agreement with Anet or something? How do they do this?

Nov 12, 2010, 10:48 PM // 22:48	#7
Kayn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Winnipeg Guild: [SNOW] Profession: P/W	Wow, this is great. Will definitely be using this. Thanks!

Nov 12, 2010, 11:00 PM // 23:00	#8
ACWhammy Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Guild: Gold Trim Guild [gtg] Profession: R/	Wow unreal! Thanks

Nov 12, 2010, 11:07 PM // 23:07	#9
Warvic Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Netherlands Profession: A/W	This is amazing! tyvm

Nov 12, 2010, 11:08 PM // 23:08	#10
Gennadios Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2009 Profession: N/A	Recognized one of the spams for an Unded Varesh from a few days ago, was being sold alongside a dredge and I bought it. Seems pretty legitimate. LOVE this.

Nov 12, 2010, 11:11 PM // 23:11	#12
FoxBat Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: Mo/Me	There is some kind of botting involved in this for sure, whether packet sniffing, custom client, or just screenshots being taken at regular intervals, analyzed and OCR'd. Well I guess that should be obvious to most of you, but I thought I'd make it clear for the rest.

Nov 13, 2010, 12:05 AM // 00:05	#16
drkn Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wroc??aw, Poland Guild: Midnight Mayhem Profession: Me/	BTW, anyone feels like checking if this works and ain't a malware?

Nov 13, 2010, 01:25 AM // 01:25	#18
Smarty Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Profession: Me/	It's a very nice idea but I don't like that the character names are included - way to keep track of all those accounts with high value items on them! Removing all characters between $ and the first : would sit a lot better with me. (Yes I know that the info could be obtained quite easily from in game but it still seems wrong to record it and publicise it like this.)

Nov 13, 2010, 03:47 AM // 03:47	#19
drkn Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wroc??aw, Poland Guild: Midnight Mayhem Profession: Me/	@Smarty: Downside - if someone happens to get your e-mail and decides to bruteforce your account, he might - just might - get your character name out of that database; how he would connect the e-mail and the character, just from the database, assuming he got your e-mail somehow, is beyond me. Upside - one can search the database for someone who spammed WTS/WTB XYZ recently and then pm him in game to buy/sell XYZ much faster and more conveniently.